Monday, 27 February 2012

How Did Play Become Tantric? (Singapore Clubbing)

(First posted in Fridae)

How did Play become Tantric?
2012-02-25 01:36


My previous profile intro said "Who wants to go to Play/Mink?". Yet I ended up on the 2nd level of Tantric (gay men's bar) on Thursday night 23 Feb.

Preference was for 1-1, yet I ended up sitting before 3 friends of "morimoto" (the Fridae contact who had sent message 3 days before on 20 Feb, asking if I would be going to Play on Thurs night).

On Thursday night around 8~9 pm, I was almost dozing off, assuming the night out to Play was cancelled, yet got out of bed, dressed, Googled for the location (with my bro's help) before rushing out to catch a bus.

At the end, as I walked away and down the stairs of Tantric, I wondered what "morimoto" had intended when she asked me out in her message here.

I have no idea. While I should have been angry that my time was wasted in such a manner, I merely considered it without much feeling.

Perhaps, because I had expected it to be worse. Or rather, when something is already expected, it doesn't come as a surprise.

Upon leaving Tantric and sitting in a bus, I smiled. Relieved to be free from an obligation to a person who even though not deserving of it, was nevertheless the recipient.

I was surprised by my own relief, without realizing I was holding onto the strain of not doing something right by an agreement.

My turning up to meet "morimoto" even though I was very tired and sleepy, even though I guessed it would not be 1-1, even though I felt she was not quite Ok, fulfilled the prior agreement that I would be there.

My presence there, even for a few minutes, fulfils it. Therefore, I went.

Besides, I was curious to see if what I thought was right. :)



(continuing... 26 Feb Sun):

On hindsight, it could have been a misunderstanding, though it felt like I had somehow been (intentionally) scammed.

Nevertheless, 3 positives did come out of it and for that, I feel I should let it go without even mentioning it here.

Yet because the situation was so strangely curious, it has made its way here, on somewhat less steam than I usually post with.

It started with hearts. I sent her one when I saw her at my profile. She thanked me, which I felt was very rare and nice. Not many people bother to send a message of thanks for a heart (usually they will just send a heart back).

So, I replied that she was welcome and that her name was cute.

She replied that she was going to Play on Thurs and if I was going, we could meet.

The selection of Thurs was interesting because clubbing usually happens on Fri or Sat. However, if a person wanted a quieter time (for instance, to hang out with friends), Thurs would be suitable.

Also, it sounded she had the schedule already set for Thurs.

So I guessed she would not be alone, although it was also possible that she regularly went to Play to relax on Thurs nights that she had set aside.

I said I was cool to meet up and asked if we should meet somewhere and walk there.

She wasn't sure what time to meet, but probably 9~10pm.

I felt the early time selection was also interesting because usually clubbers would start late.

She offered her mobile number first, which I felt positive about. I offered mine in return and said to SMS in between the time or on Thurs, since the details had not been decided yet.

Till Wed, there wasn't word from her, making me wonder if it was cancelled. So, I SMSed to ask if we were meeting outside Play or....? (whether it was cancelled).

She said we could contact when we are inside.

Inside? Since I have never been to Play, I can only imagine looking for someone I had never met in a semi-darkness like Attica, Firefly or Gotham Penthouse (closed down).

Now, why would someone suggest meeting inside, rather than outside a club? I imagined she would wait more comfortably lounging alone on a sofa inside than waiting outside.

Then she said I could bring friends or anyone who was interested.

So, I asked, "So, you will be with friends?".

She did not reply.

That being the case, and no more SMSes from her, I assumed it was cancelled.



Thursday was a very sleepy day for me. Was too tired to even go out with Bro to the nearby mall when he asked if I wanted to.

Come nightfall, I had forgotten about having to meet anyone for the night, assuming it was already cancelled since no reply.

At about 8pm, I was in bed, re-watching Hana Kimi (Taiwan version) on Youtube on my phone, too sleepy to do anything else. Eyes were partly closing, and I was thinking of calling it a night.

At 8.09pm, her SMS came asking if I would be heading to Play later and that she was still at work.

Considering the question, I considered the answer.

First, she never replied whether she would be with friends. Second, I assumed the meet up was cancelled. Third, I was very tired (haven't been feeling particularly well) and almost sleeping. Fourth, it was most likely she would be with friends (but not telling me).

Should I go? (Bro told me to decline quickly before she left for the club).

If she had replied to my last message (whether she would be with friends), there wouldn't be this reluctance. There was also the casual, impersonal way of her SMS replies that didn't bode well. Plus, I was pretty certain she would be with friends but she wasn't saying it.

On the other hand, I had agreed to meet on Thurs night, and she could be alone after work, waiting for me.



Close to 9pm, I replied that I was very tired and asked if it was confirmed she was going.

(Wondering if she might say that since I'm tired, I'm excused. I had wanted to ask whether she was alone or with friends. If with friends, then I could be excused.).

In a minute, her SMS came that she was already at Maxwell. (Not sure if this was in response to my message since it was so quick).

Bro was right that I had taken too long to respond. She had already left work and arrived.

It sank me a little, since it meant I couldn't say no now. I said, I'm on my way if she was Ok to wait.

So, I got out of bed, tried Googling for Play's exact location and failing to find while the clock ticked. After some 15 mins, I asked Bro to help search for it while I got dressed.

It has been a while since I last looked around that area out of curiosity. I had wanted to have a look at Tantric after it was mentioned online, and went to look at Taboo and Play along the way. But I only stepped into Tantric for 3 mins and didn't enter the rest.

A subesequent occasion when I tried looking for Play again, oddly, I couldn't find it. So, this time, I needed Google map.

Google has this wonderful feature that Bro is very good at finding and using, where it shows an exact place in the day-time with zooming and 360 degrees viewing as though you are there.



Earlier, on Wed, it suddenly occured to me that I had never looked at her profile since her first message. (Yet I was going to meet her on Thurs).

What if she smokes? I don't think I can put up with another Fridae woman who gravitates to a trashbin like the one I once met, and having to breathe in her smoke.

I rushed to her profile to check--and it was the cleanest I've ever seen since being here. No hair dye, no smoking, no drinking (if I recall correctly), no piercing. Normal, boring, like me. Amazing.

Safe, finer, educated types of hobbies. Even finer than mine.

Her admonishing others for the lack of respect for another person (in asking for her pics), sounded so much like me when I used to be upset like that.

She sounded like she knew what respecting others meant. A positive point. How bad can she be if she understands respect?

Her profile was too good to be true. As it is said regarding scams online: If something is too good to be true, it probably is.

After viewing her profile, it occured to me I didn't know what her sexual preferences were. So I went back, thinking I missed out reading it (how could I have missed out something so important?).

It wasn't that I missed out. She didn't have the section "Things I'm Into".

Now, what sort of person would not have that section? Prudish? :) Pretender?



Nevertheless...

An agreement is an agreement. She was already there, and I was also curious to see whether my guesstimates/predictions were right.

If only she had been honest that she would be with friends and asked if I wanted to join them.

There is no point in me going and then discovering I have to sit with people I don't know without prior warning. I'd still leave. There is no benefit, so I don't know why she did it.

If she was just curious about my appearance, or if she wanted to freshen up her group with a new face, or just to get a kick out of controlling a situation.... I don't see how it benefits in a meaningful way.



So, tired as I was, let's go see whether it is as I guessed.



Just before I left the house, Bro said, "Be careful.". I guessed he meant watching out for traffic. He knew I had been needing my rest, but didn't say anything against my going (even though he said I should cancel).

He asked me to take a cab, but I felt there wasn't a need to.

While it was possible she was waiting for me alone, it was highly likely she was passing the time with friends, in which case, there was no special need for me to hurry.



At about 10.15 pm, I arrived, and walked fast through Chinatown to get to Maxwell food center.

Considering the time when she sent SMS about her arrival at Maxwell (at about 9pm), I would be 1.5 hrs late by the time I walked to Play.

Usually, I'm punctual. If she had replied to my last message about whether she would be with friends, I wouldn't be so late and rushing. I would have been early.

(While I might have declined if she had mentioned a group meeting, I might also have said yes. Her not replying to my SMS message spooked me into thinking the meet up was cancelled.).

I SMSed her that I was on the way to Play.

However, she replied that she was at Tantric and asked if I wanted to go there first.

Tantric? I wondered why was she at the gay men's bar, instead of the agreed place we were to meet. Briefly, I didn't have a good feeling about it.

But then, considering she had been waiting for more than 1 hr... She perhaps got bored at Play and went to check out Tantric.

I said Ok.



As mentioned, having checked out Tantric some time back out of curiosity, I knew exactly where it was. Sometimes, a bus will take me past it. So, getting to it was easy.

In the middle of the road, sits a church. To its left, the lane leads to Play. To the right, a main road leads to Taboo and Tantric.

Reaching Play, I merely had to turn back to the church and cross over.



Arriving at Tantric... guess who I saw coming out of a blue cab?

As I approached the entrance, 2 persons emerged from a cab, standing outside and looking up into Tantric.

The one behind, I assumed was a woman from her size, though I didn't actually look.

Standing behind them, I looked up also, into the semi-dark courtyard with its lounging people and smoke.

Wondering if the two persons were getting in and waiting for them, I noticed the first person stalling ahead at the threshold, seemingly uncertain about going in.

Large, tall and in a yellow veil shawl. As the person turned, I saw the right-side profile of a hooked nose and dark complexion.

Oh, Kumar.

What's he doing here? (Then again, this is a gay men's bar, so it shouldn't be surprising he's here).

(Now in hindsight, I wonder if he owns the place or is one of the owners?).

2 young guys in black had gone near them as the two exited the cab, so I assumed they were together.

However, as I stood behind looking up and waiting for the two persons to enter Tantric, and feeling uncertain about my own entrance, they noticed me.

Surprisingly, Kumar stepped back with the others, and I went forth.

The 2 black guys quickly took positions on either side of the entrance, with the one on the left saying in a formal tone as I passed, "Welcome to Tantric".

Wahh, that never happened when I was here previously. At that time, nobody greeted me as I hung outside with the bouncers staring at me until I asked if I could go in and they unstiffened with a welcoming "sure, sure".

This time, to have a formal greeting like that at the entrance... I must be looking pretty cool. Bro had said I looked cool, using the term that we have for the look.

Behind me, I wasn't aware of Kumar or anyone else following. Subsequently, I didn't see Kumar in there. I guess maybe he felt the place wasn't suitable and went back into the waiting cab.



As on the previous occasion, supposedly gay men glanced up from the tall tables as I stepped into Tantric's courtyard and walked through. I suppose it's only natural to see who enters and leaves.

A few women in black, bare-backed dresses were also there.

Avoiding breathing in the smoke, I went into the shophouse where a long bar counter stretches with plenty of empty space to sit around on cushioned bar-stools on this Thurs night.

Previously when I was there, the place was packed with testosterone with only standing space.



The stools were neatly lined along the walls, so I just sat on one nearest the door and SMSed that I had arrived.

But it didn't seem she received it, since 6 mins later, she asked me to inform her when I had arrived.

Thinking perhaps connection was bad inside, I stepped out . I asked whether she was here and that I was already sitting inside Tantric.

No reply for quite a while, making me wonder if it was a prank.

I began typing the message that I would only wait for another 5 mins before leaving.

While considering the message, the phone rang and I got off my seat while saying "hello".

Standing across from me, just outside, was a woman holding her phone to her ear. A woman with similar facial features as a Taiwanese woman I had fired recently.

There is something about facial features that tell about a person.



Nevertheless, I brushed that aside and said, "Oh." with unsmiling surprise.

She didn't say a thing or smile as she looked me eye-to-eye. Then she led the way up the side where I hadn't known was the stairs.

I said I didn't know Tantric had an upstairs, and thought we were supposed to be at Play?

She smiled back that "we" came to Tantric because there were gays in Play.

For a moment, I didn't catch that. What in Play?

Gays, she repeated as she reached the top of the stairs and pushed open the door.



It baffled me as I went up the stairs. Gays in Play and that's why "we" are in Tantric?

As guessed, I was led to a cosy corner where 3 persons sat in a big, black, plush sofa with a table in front.

Approaching, was not a pleasant feeling. I did not get out of bed for this, although I had a brief secret fantasy of being invited by a woman who secretly didn't mention her friends and then they subsequently, sexually enjoyed me.

I tried to smile without grimace, at the 3 young persons sitting there who looked rather surprised and clueless at who/what was coming to their table.

"Morimoto" sat on the right of the sofa bench opposite the trio, while I took the left.



She introduced me, by saying and pointing to me and her, "We don't know each other. I haven't met her before.".

I wasn't pleased to hear the disassociation.

Nice intro, eh? (after all my hurrying there). Shouldn't the correct/usual introduction be "This is X" and these are my friends, "X,Y and Z."?

Then, she said to me with a smile, "These are my friends." sounding and looking as though proud of them as her friends but not with me as an acquaintance.



Two young guys were on either side of a young Chinese woman. A light-colored Indian on the left and a Chinese on the right.

All in their 20s, I was guessing. All sounding locals.

Surprisingly, they were very nice, asking for my name.

After I said it, they didn't catch it, so I repeated. Then they introduced themselves, one at a time, presenting a hand for me to shake.

Unfortunately, after all that walking and perspiring, and then chilled by the air-con sitting in the Tantric downstairs, my hand was cold (and luckily dry).

Their names fell through the sieve of my mind at the time, since I was preoccupied with the thought of leaving.



However, it must be said that those 3 persons were very nice. Might have been better had it been a different situation.

While I liked the young woman who was very gungho in being the first to introduce herself, presenting her hand pointing down and forwards, elbow out, her name escaped me.

Hand pointing down and forwards with the elbow out--I thought was a rather outdated way of presenting a masculine directness/forwardness that seemed artificial.

From her body language and behavior, there seemed no doubt she was having a positive/favorable opinion of me. At the start, she watched my face while talking to the guys, glancing for my reaction or to see if I was looking.

I wasn't looking at them.

While they talked and laughed, I turned my attention to the layout and ambience of the room. Interesting place, cozy, classy, Victorian-ish, though small. Interesting photos, framed, along the walls.

Interesting that the decor made the room look like an altogether different place than downstairs.

A large TV at the top of the wall was playing a British drama that I wished to know the title to, above the sofa beside the trio's. In the sofa, two short, youngish gay guys lay against each other, watching an identical TV across the room, playing the same drama.

No sound came from the TVs, and an empty bar counter was to the right of the room.



Some time in between, "morimoto" said that her 2 guy friends were gays while the young woman was... a "lesbo"? (not sure if I heard right since it was said very quickly and casually).

By her "masculine" presentation, I would guess the young woman was gay.

It seemed she was curious about me and interested in a wide-eyed sort of way.

At one point, I realized she had clasped her hands over her crossed knees, as I was doing. Whether she was conscious of it or not, she was mimicking me.

In interviews, if you wish to gain favorable response from the interviewer, subtly/discreetly copy what he/she is doing. The interviewer will then feel there is a "rapport" between you and him/her, making you a more favorable choice to hire. I learnt this from body language lessons taught to me a long time ago.

Whether she knows of this body language, I don't know. But she was getting me to see favorably of her.

Unfortunately, a youth untouched by the realities of the world, has no appeal to me.



While the trio talked about their drinking experiences and laughed at the young woman who recounted her reaction to an alcohol she had drank in the past, the Chinese guy abruptly glanced up and asked me, ""How old do you think she is?".

Offhand, one might think 18, as the number showed in my head (if they could read thoughts, they would know this answer to be wrong).

However, as I looked at her face and into her eyes for a few moments while she looked seriously back at me, I guessed 20+.

They seemed impressed and wowed that "that was a new high". So, I guessed I was the first to get it right.

She wanted to know if it was because of her presence in "this place". I smiled slightly, said no. (Though I'm not quite sure what she meant, I didn't think age has anything to do with being in a gay bar.).

I thought she should have asked if it was her dressing. But even then, it wasn't the clothing.

The Chinese guy said if she wore shorts and stuff, I might not have been able to guess. (Earlier, he was trying too hard to sound gay, conscious of my eyes on him).

Had they pursued for a number, I would have given it and believe I would have been quite right as well.



At the start, a few minutes after we sat down, "morimoto" had turned to me and said there was no obligation for me to stay, and that I could leave if I wanted. Or if I wanted to go to Play, we could also go.

I glanced to see what the trio thought of going to Play, and it seemed they didn't hear (or pretended not to have heard) as they talked.

It didn't seem like they would uproot to go to Play.

After making the effort to meet with "morimoto", expecting a 1-1 meet up at Play and ending up at Tantric instead, facing persons I didn't know... She now says there is no obligation for me to stay.



I smiled slightly at her and turned away. Why should I leave and show myself to be as poorly managed as her?

At least, a stay of a few minutes was in order.



Meanwhile, the Indian guy was nice enough to talk a little with me. He seemed curious about me (as the other two were), and he was quite interesting to talk to and quite cute. :)

From him, I learnt that entering Play before 10pm grants free access in and out. After 10pm, it's $15. (A Fridae acquaintance had already told me this before, but I had forgotten.).

Thursday, he said, was also gay women's night. That's why they preferred Tantric. (I wondered, what about the gay woman with you guys? Doesn't she get a say in preferring Play?).

He continued that "morimoto" didn't like Play for the reason. I was about to confirm it with him when I realized I could ask her sitting right beside me.

Did she not like Play because of the theme and that's why she was at Tantric? (I wanted to find out whose/which side was she on, gay or not).

She smiled it away, indicating the trio, "They wanted to come to Tantric.".

How convenient.



After a suitable time, I turned to "morimoto" and informed that I was going to check out Play.

As I got up, it took the Indian guy a moment to realize I was leaving, and he expressed cute and loud disappointment, "OH? You are leaving?" as though my presence was appreciated.

I repeated I was going to check out Play. Given my earlier interested questions about Play, it served as a good excuse to leave.

As I walked away, I heard them say "bye" and slightly said it in return without looking back.



Throughout the whole time, "morimoto" didn't join in the trio's conversations, but merely watched as though she were an older chaperone. Neither did she talk to me, unless I talked to her.

I found that most strange.



After walking out of Tantric, I stood at the bus-stop just outside, across the road.

I considered going over to Play for real, but didn't see the need to pay $15 when I could check it out next time before 10pm and get free access.

If every Thurs night was gay women's night, I could go another Thurs if I wanted.

Wondered if by not going, I might perhaps miss a chance meeting someone interesting (who might not be there another time), but I thought if it was meant to be, there will be a next time.

After a while of waiting, I walked further down, past Maxwell to another bus-stop and caught a bus back.


On hindsight, it was possible she didn't receive my SMS about whether she would be with friends. Just as she might not have received the SMS I sent to say that I had arrived at Tantric (and thought it was a connection problem).

Still, I wasn't told we would be meeting others. I was specific about going to Play or Mink. Yet this was conveniently and unapologetically used for her own occasion at Tantric, with the remark that I had no obligation to stay when I was there. The offer to go to Play never happened.

Overall, the 3 positives were:

It could have been worse ("morimoto" might have been crazier), her friends were nice to meet, and I found I still have the cool-look effect on people with the right haircut :) (that I just had from QB, not even from a salon this time).

I don't think the clothes I wore were anything special.

As bro said when I asked what gives the "cool" look, it's the face and blue glasses (I don't think he mentioned the hair. He never thinks it's the hair though I always say it is.). He said if the face were longer, I'd look even more like my favorite actor.

Mm. Well, while that sounds nice and makes me happy, I think it has to be taken with ... a lot of doubt. :)

I don't look masculine. Bro means the "cool-look" effect of the actor.



Thursday, 23 February 2012

Going Organics 2

Update 7 March Wed: Watsons @ VivoCity has resumed selling the Hurraw lip balms and Eco products as of now. The soap smells really sweet and delicious.

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(First posted  in Fridae)

2012-02-23 15:59

At the moment, you all have just been spared my unforgiving and unhappy comments about gay women (and men) here and in the "About Me" section, by a Fridae woman who replied to my SMS some minutes ago (this morning when typing this).

Thus, I am appeased...

Another Fridae woman "morimoto" however, deserves mention, because her SMS ended strangely and abruptly without reply last night.

I guess this will be mentioned again in another post some time in future.

Problem sending e-mail to my Korean contact has just been solved.

My SMS sent this morning was received (surprised and relieved). I think it's lousy Yahoo. Keeps bouncing back my e-mails to my Korean contact with mail delivery failure messages (after 1~2 days after I had sent).
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*sees my profile at the right side of screen* Why is my profile appearing under Featured Profiles"?

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At the moment, also intending to purchase Sanctum Organics Moisture Day cream  online. Googling for website to buy from.

Not the first time seeing this brand that I didn't know is Australian. Yesterday was the second time I saw and tried one of the products (Moisture Day cream) @ The Naturally Better Company @ Millenia Walk (at a small separate space inside PARCO first level).

Price $88. Sales lady informed there's a 10% discount (which would still make it pretty expensive, I thought).

What's interesting is that when pumped, it comes out in 2 separate colors (white and toffee brown). When mixed, the 2 creams combine beautifully moist and creamy on the skin of the hand (during testing).

The scent is nice and the consistency is creamy when mixed, almost like honey, but not thick. It's a very nice and smooth texture to spread evenly, leaving the skin very soft, smooth and moisturized.

I guess it might leave a stickiness if used on the face, though can't really confirm it since I tested it on my hand which was smoothly moisturized after application.

It's a face moisturizer, and the 2 colors coming out separately reminds me of ...another brand at Watsons (the one that has 2 columns in 1 tube).

Unfortunately, while talking to the sales lady about the price, whether it was the Moisture Day or Moisture Control that I wanted and the expiry dates, I saw a red dot on the expiry date of the sample bottle.

A  red dot that covered the expiry date well.

Of course, I peeled it off to see the date. 06 2011.

Last year? June?

How could she still be having this bottle as a sample for people to try??

It's more than 6 months old!

I told her that it's expired and that I had just already applied it on my hand.

She said it's Ok like it didn't matter (of course, because it's not her skin).

Even if it's just a 1-time application on the hand... I'm amazed that this bottle of sample had expired more than 6 months ago. And a red dot has conveniently been placed over it.

She seems a nice lady, but... I'm very surprised that this has been done. I've not seen other sales staff there, so I don't think it's been done by other sales ladies.

Regarding the expiry date on the box of the Moisture Day Cream, it's a few months later this year. Pretty close to now, and tells me it's been a long while since it's been imported.

I don't think a cosmetic product would have only a few months shelf-life. Importation alone takes a month or two.

This, plus the fact that it ain't cheap, and the fact that the expiry date of the sample bottle was deliberately hidden, made me decide not to buy.

(Strange that the Moisture Day doesn't seem able to be found online. Could be old/discontinued product).

I only purchased a Hurraw lip balm that I came for, remembering that it is the only one among all the flavors that gives a tint to the lips.

Yesterday, memory was refreshed--Black Cherry tinted lip balm @ $8.50.

Previously, I had bought the Moon Night lip balm (vanilla flavor) from Millenia Walk at $10.50,  and it's been good. So, I returned yesterday to buy the balm that would give some color to my lips.

Unfortunately, Watsons used to sell items from The Naturally Better Company but stopped recently. Watsons charged $1 more though.

I bought the Eco orange and Patchouli body wash from Watsons previously and it was just Ok, nothing great for the price of $18. Not especially hydrating or moisturizing. http://naturallybetterco.wordpress.com/brands/ecostore/bodyhandcare/

But the Moon Night Treament lip balm is good. The moisture stays and is very light on the lips.

As mentioned in Female magazine Feb issue (that I read while my feet were being attended to at Nails@The Lacquer Room @ VivoCity), the Hurraw lip balm slides on smooth and easy. Not sticky, and no fake-tasting flavors.

The best lip balm I've ever used. Even better than Lip Infusion Moisture Splash by Blistex from Watsons. The original lip splash is better than the Cherry flavor. http://www.blistex.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&Itemid=73.

For the Cherry Splash, what this reviewer said is true. It's been a while since I used it and forgotten. http://beautymakeupaddict.blogspot.com/2011/08/blistex-lip-infusion-cherry-splash.html

It does dry out very fast on the lips, leaving the lips even drier and thirstier. The original splash stays the lips moist only just a little longer, and leaves the lips quite dry as well, but overall, better than the Cherry.


Here are the best lip balms I've ever tried:

Hurraw! Black Cherry Tinted and Moon Night Treatment lip balms. And the website. The Naturally Better Company is actually an umbrella company for a few organic brands:

According to the website, the Moon balm "lends a gorgeous green-blue color", but actually, there's no such color in the stick or when applying.

The black cherry tinted balm does give a nice, slight pinkish gloss to the lips.  According to the sales lady, it gives the lips a natural color. Very smooth to apply. I like it very much. Lovely color on the lips with a light moisture.

The flattish, elliptical design is also very unique.



Sunday, 19 February 2012

Going Organic

Update 11 Nov Sun 2012: This is a very old post. Since then, I have found an online site to get organic stuff. However... I have found the site to be excellent, but not perfect.

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(First posted on Fridae)

Going Organic
2012-02-17 01:09

Searching for organic body washes (shower gels) that are free from parabens, alcohol, SLS (Sodium Lauryl Sulfate) and other drying/damaging chemicals.

Need something hydrating and moisturizing without needing to use body lotion after bathing.

No point buying a moisturizing body wash and then have to use body lotion after it. If the hydrating/moisturizing body wash/shower gel is that good, it shouldn't be necessary to have to use body lotion.

So, I don't know why women compliment a body wash for being moisturizing and then follow up with body lotion/cream. Double moisturizing? Or the body wash simply wasn't good enough?

Personally, I don't like using body lotion or even hand creams... Even though sometimes I buy, but... then use only a few times before leaving aside. I just find it pointless to apply creams because the body has its own natural layer of moisture and oils.

And that natural cover is easily eroded by the very chemicals that sellers claim to be moisturizing.

I end up throwing away a lot of creams, lipsticks, lip balms, facial toners and moisturizers because they don't work.

Thinking of buying many organic body washes that I browsed online. Very expensive... Can't afford to buy a US$20 body wash for only 8oz (237ml).

237 ml is so little. Really. By the time it gets airmailed into Singapore, the price would be SGD40 at the minimum. Too crazy even for my taste.

Yet it's hard to let go. Red Flower Icelandic Moonflower body wash.

Red Flower is the brand name. Never heard of it but it's got plenty of positive reviews, except for 1 that said the scent was ...too strong/heavy.

So, then I thought of switching to their Japanese Peony body wash, same price, same amount, but my heart has been set on Icelandic because of its wonderful name.

Just recently, I dropped by Crabtree at Vivocity to check out their Pomegranate body wash that I saw online. Looked a rather big bottle but according to online, it's only 250ml.

The Crabtree saleswoman said the individual bottles have sold out, but they have a last set at a discounted price of $55 for the wash and lotion (original price $60).

Dividing $55 by 2... it's still an incredible amount to pay for just body wash/shower gel.

Sniffing the Rosewater shower gel was heavenly, but it's only a very narrow bottle that costs a lot.

Imagine how much smaller the Icelandic shower gel at 237ml would be, and costs even more.

What do these people think they are selling? Gold?


When you browse the shelves of Watsons and Guardian, it's ironic that shower gels that call themselves "moisturizing" actually contain parabens (methylparaben etc...) and alcohol that dry out the skin, instead of moisturizing.

Even Cetaphil, that's said to be for very sensitive skins, contains parabens.

[For more information on parabens, SLS, etc., -- http://www.vivawoman.net/2008/04/17/better-skin-without-paraben-sls/]

These days, I've realized that organic is the way to go. As best as possible and if not too expensive, I choose organic fresh vegetables and fruits.

In the past, organic used to equate to very expensive. But these days, prices have gone down a lot and some items are pretty reasonably priced. Fresh and nice-looking as well.

Example:  4 organic Juliet apples from France cost $5.95 at Giant. That's pretty reasonable for organic apples that look good, smell sweet and taste great. And free from pesticides.

A packet of Chye Sim costs about $2.55 at NTUC. That's also reasonable. Compared to non-organic Chye Sim at about $1+, it costs just a little more for pesticide-free and safe dining. It just puts your heart at ease to know it's organic. Whether it's been genetically altered is another matter.

Pesticides and hormones pumped into our food source, can be blamed for plenty of problems in a human body. I would say, even cause sexual orientation problems.

Notice that it is only in recent years that there are more gays and transgender people. I don't think it is about coming out of the closet, or genes.

Hormones and vitamins pumped into eggs, milk, chicken meat...

While I can't say that our water supply is involved, it would not be surprising that these synthetic chemicals have also found their way in there.


Is there organic bread selling in Singapore?

So far, all the flavors of Gardenia, Sunshine, Bonjour and other brands of bread, have a very artificial and yeasty taste. Also, the reason why they can last an extra 1 or 2 days after expiry date, is because of the preservatives.

Probably, it's the preservatives that make the bread taste odd, although Gardenia white bread tastes a little better than the others.


For my skin... all along, I never cared what type or brand I used for shampoo and shower gels. I would buy whatever looks interesting and smells good. I never read the ingredients.

So, I've used plenty of different types and flavors of gels and shampoos over the years.

Of late, I think this has caught up with my skin that has become very dry. Dry to the extent of feeling tight with a little itch sometimes along my thighs when stretched.

Though it probably has something to do with my swimming, past and present, I think it's more to do with the chemicals in the shampoos and shower gels over the years.

It's only recently that organic bath and body products, and food, have turned up on our shelves. And it would seem the more educated people who know about the benefits are appreciating them.

Certainly, more educated also likely means more spending power.

People are more careful these days of what they use and what they eat. Some are overly cautious, without considering that sometimes... it doesn't matter what you eat or do, it's just ... bad genes.

Or it doesn't matter what you eat or do, because... other things can go wrong that wasn't planned or foreseen.

As the proverb says: Man proposes, God disposes. (Though I wouldn't count too much on the existence of such a being.).

As the devil also said on a T-shirt I once saw a man wearing up the bus: God is busy. May I help you?

I like that T-shirt. I believe it's truer than God. *small smile*

Some time back, after seeing that shirt, I considered buying it online, but didn't, again because of cost and shipping.

Just 2 days ago, I spent some bucks buying 3 organic body washes from US websites from a middle person.

All supposed to be organic, sans drying/harsh/detergent chemicals. So, I'm waiting to try them when they arrive.

Meanwhile, I'm eyeing at the brand Pharmacopia (Lavender flavor) for US$15.40 that I saw on Skin Botanica, but don't know how to buy this into Singapore (affordably) together with a few other items.

I could buy through the middle person again... but will need to ask how much.

If I do that, I was thinking of asking how much for a Speedo swimsuit as well.

The Speedo US website accepts cards issued outside of the US, but they don't ship out. So odd and what a bummer.

I need a swimsuit (again).

Last year, I made the mistake of ordering a Speedo swimsuit from an independent swimming products US website (instead of Amazon or from the middle person, that I felt were too expensive).

Well, this website charged even more in the end. Not sure how the heck airmail got so much or how they calculated it.

I ended up paying SGD 140+ for a swimsuit. And it took longer to get here than if I had ordered from Amazon.

Amazon charges for handling and shipping, but they are fast. Just that airmail is a real killer.

Recently, I tested total cost for just 5 paperback books at Amazon and airmail quoted was US$62. My goodness.

US$62. Just for 5 paperbacks (not even hard cover). I went through the middle person to get them for me and waiting for arrival. The waiting is the disadvantage, but no choice, to save on airmail.

Skin Botanica does ship to Singapore, but the airmail is also killer (just 3 bottles of body wash cost US$39 airmail). http://skinbotanica.com/

If you live in the US, then it's free shipping for orders over US$49 *arggghhh* It's not fair... (common for many US websites to offer free shipping for just low amount purchases).

I considered using Comgateway, but even up till Dec 2011, people were still complaining how bad it was.

Using other US forwarders... will also be costly.

I might have to give up Pharmacopia (unless I go through the middle person or buy from Skin Botanica), though the Lavender has received good reviews.

Ahh...

Then... there's this interesting brand called 100% Pure (or 100 percent pure) with really delicious and fabulous-sounding flavors.

Surprisingly, Google showed up a local business here that actually sells 100% Pure products, from body washes to cosmetics with plant pigments. Their office is at Kallang Pudding (wherever that is).

Found their Facebook first before seeing they have a website (with a URL that doesn't bear the brand name, no wonder didn't come up in Google search).


The brand is supposedly 100% pure in that the products contain only natural ingredients and preservatives. No chemicals whatsoever.

One local blogger brought her boyfriend to their office, and actually ate a little of one of their body scrubs after the owner (?) suggested that she try it. The owner, Janet, says it tastes like jam.

I was thinking... that that being the case, it means the product is as good as homemade (though homemade would be superior since fresher), than spending money buying it.

So, why should I spend $27 on a body wash when I can make it myself? Janet informed that for new customers, there's a 22% discount.

Well... that's if I know how to make a body wash myself.

I know scrubs can be homemade/DIY. It's very simple and cheap. I once put out ads offering natural ingredients facial and body "spa" massage for ladies.

Plenty of recipes for DIY online. All using fruits, natural oils etc... I had some interested replies through my ads.

I'm also interested in 100% Pure's line of body creams, but not sure how oily (or not oily) it's going to be.

Usually for natural products, there will be some settling of natural oils and separation of ingredients etc...

So, I'm not sure how 100% Pure's stuff is going to be (unless I buy a body wash and body cream to try).

A reviewer said the body cream absorbs easily into the skin and the scent doesn't linger.

For the body wash... reviews have said the lathering is weak, scent doesn't linger on the skin, a little watery, but... great for their skin.

Mm... I prefer my shower gels creamy with some light scent on my skin after bathing.

Hard to decide, hard to buy when it's all money money money...

Then there's Pure Fiji, that reviews have been good about. Never heard of the brand either, but they have some very tasty bath wash flavors. :)

Skin Botanica sells some, but here is the wider range on the Aussie site (but they don't ship out):


They also have sites in US, UK, Fiji (assuming main site), New Zealand and Korea (surprisingly).

Clicking on "by Range" in the menu tab, comparisons can be made.

*looking at the Korean site* Hmm... I've a contact person for Korea, so at least I can order. Immediately thinking of importing into SG to sell.... :)

For shower gels, the Korea site has Passion Flower and Frangipani (total 7 choices to pick) but the Aussie has Orange Blossom (total 6 choices to pick).

Other difference is the Aussie version has Hydrating Body mist that the Korean doesn't have.

The Reniu line and Outdoor Protection (insect repellents) are not in the Korean version.

(The Aussie site is very much slower than the Korean)

Dilo Rescue series, body spray sold out at Korean site and also missing Body Gel travel size.

Facial Solution series... the Aussie site has only Toner and Cleanser. Korean site has Hydrating Multi-Active Serum, Multi-Active Night Creme (sold out) and Multi-Active Day Creme (sold out).

I just did the calculation. ~.~ It would cost SGD 50 for 1 bottle of shower gel (Pineapple flavor. Mango sold out) from the Korean site, without shipping.

Buying from Skin Botanica is cheaper...

Definitely can't import this brand for sale unless wanna do wholesale...


Update:

I found another reviewer who blogged about buying discounted 100% Pure bathing washes at OG Orchard. But her blog was in 2010.

Tonight (17 Feb), I checked it out, and wasn't surprised to see OG no longer carries the stock.

When she mentioned she bought at a discount, I guessed they were probably clearing out stock. Also, the bottle for the organic mint Eucalyptus foaming shower gel she photographed for her blog is no longer in use. The brand has changed its bottles.

While I could order from Janet and save a lot with the new customer 22% discount...

I just realized that in her e-mail when she replied to me, she typed my name starting with a small alphabet, while she signed off her own name with a capital first letter.

A slip of respect for the customer? *thinks* No wait... she typed the reply on her phone. Meaning, capitals and small letters are difficult to control.

Her sign off could also be an automatic outgoing signature.

Yet fact is, she got her name right with the capital first letter in the right place. Yet didn't bother to amend/notice the small starting letter of my name.

Do I want to give my money to someone who doesn't respect me as a customer?

Well... it's kinda hard to decide when I'm really curious about the body washes and she's the only one who seems to stock them in Singapore.

Strange but true that it seems there is no one else selling the 100% Pure brand in Singapore. How can that be?

If anyone of you sees it selling anywhere in SG, send message.


Update 2: (19 Feb Sun)

I still can't decide whether to get the 100% Pure shower gel and facial cleanser from Janet.

Mainly because I've bought many products that have disappointed so far. From the reviews for 100% Pure, it doesn't sound too great, although it does sound like might work.

Bottomline, it's all about money.


Many things I need to buy and do with money:

1) Go to Japan. I am missing it so very much, it's driving me a little depressed.

2) Go to Taiwan. I need to buy more Wacoal bra and panties that fit me so well. Only the new mall Jing Zhan sells (haven't seen it elsewhere in Taiwan) and the sales lady was so nice when I was there last year.

She told me this Wacoal brand and the designs are exclusive to Taiwan. It got me thinking that that's why I've never seen them in Singapore. A pity. The designs are unique, youngish and most importantly, very fitting. 

From Taiwan, go to Japan.


3) Since no money to go, I would settle for a Singapore hotel room bath tub relaxing soak for 1 night.

I won't "order" any more women from Fridae to give me a massage because I've been too disappointed with freelancers and previous experiences.

4) Full sensuous body masssage from (trying out) Changi Village Hotel (recommended by a woman on Fridae).

Looking it up now, Google says the spa is called "The Retreat" and also available at the Mariott. Great. I can go to the Mariott then, nearer.

Been reluctant to have to search how to get to Changi Village Hotel.

Do you have dirty, sexy, sensuous massage? ^____^

Hmm...seems the massage "treatments" are different for the Mariott and Changi Village, even though both under The Retreat.

*frowns with pout* Prefer Changi Village. Cheaper prices and with the more usual relaxing treatments (what the heck is Thalasso Swedish massage at the Mariott?).

Besides, the woman who recommended it on Fridae said she had tried a very nice sensuous massage at Changi Village. Not sure if her "sensuous" matches with what I'm expecting.


5) 100% Pure shower gel (Pomegranate) and facial cleanser (Lavender).

6) If I order from Janet, I will remove the same items that I put into Skin Botanica's online cart. Still, the other items in the cart will be a costly purchase from Skin Botanica after shipping.

7) Speedo swimsuit. US$49.99. Supposed to be "new" in Speedo website, but why so cheap? Cheaper than their usual. The Magnetic Space Remix Y-Back - Speedo Endurance+ is pretty cool.

I always only buy Speedo's Endurance series, though I wonder how long this one will last because of the shoulder straps. Though they have reinforced the straps, I doubt thin straps like that can last long.

Still, it is a beautiful and cool design in the water. And the price is pretty good.

But where to buy online that will ship to Singapore and how much airmail... headache every time.

I need a US person to ship stuff for me... Anyone (reliable) living in the US, welcome to apply (preferably Oregon/Delaware). I pay a commission guaranteed. 


Wednesday, 8 February 2012

Exactly 1 Month

From 8 Jan when I went to A&E Alexandra & KK Women's Hospital (with the problem actually starting earlier), till 8 Feb yesterday (as of posting now), it's been exactly a month.

I thought it was slightly more than a month, but counting it exactly from A&E, it's exactly a month.

8 Feb morning, for the first time since 8 Jan, I went back to swimming.

Morning, I jogged a little, then evening swam 23 or 24 laps of the pool with hand paddles till 6.10 pm. Felt normal, as if nothing had happened. Can it be considered back in shape or...?

Had thought to swim relaxed without hand paddles, but felt Ok to use them.

The previous days, I've been jogging mornings, a little each time. Very slowly.

Still dependent on iron supplements (1~3 a day, depending on how I feel).

Will be posting change in diet and effects since 8 Jan.

Tuesday, 7 February 2012

Tease & Flirt @ Firefly Saturday 4 Feb (Singapore Clubbing)

(First posted in Fridae)

Firefly on Sat 4 Feb
2012-02-07 00:27

Fridae came back on after maintenance... but still looks the same. Thought was going to be upgrade? Revamp like Trevvy?

Well, the same is better than doing something new that doesn't work (like Trevvy).

What did Fridae do during these 2 days of maintenance? I still have to refresh the page so many times just to get the blog posting area to display properly in order to post.

And still having problems connecting to the site. Where is their server based in anyway?

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Firefly @ Mariott basement on Sat 4 Feb. Was an event where party-goers were given finger lights with each color denoting a different meaning. Very cool, sexy, fun idea.

Which was why I was interested this time, when receiving the Herstory e-mail about this event.

Usually, I just delete Herstory e-mails, but the theme this time was interesting enough to make me consider going (except I didn't have anyone to go with).

"Herstory Tease & Flirt: All Grrls Party @ Firefly 4 Feb 2012 (Saturday).

We all know February is the month of love. And to celebrate...

Herstory is bringing back the Tease & Flirt party we’ll willingly queue up for. Don’t remember what happened last year? Well, you wore your single status on your sleeve with a chosen light stick, downed too many stiff drinks and walked up to the sexy little thing who caught your eye – no need to say the rest. Aren’t you just excited that we’re doing this all over again? With a smashing, smouldering crowd; Gia, your favourite crowd-pleasers and DJ Victor’s killer tunes, no less.

Upon entry, you'll receive a LED Laser Finger Lights that is coded with the colour that best represents you!

BLUE: Single and Available!

GREEN: Predator on the Lookout!

RED: Tease with caution!

WHITE: Anything goes!

NONE: Oops I'm taken!

Grrls, Booze, Wicked Music, Dance Grooves. Enjoy a merry time @Firefly for Herstory Monthly Saturday Grrls Party.

**Make your table reservations early to avoid disappointment**

FREE ENTRY for students 19-23yrs before 10pm (Must show student pass)
FREE ENTRY for air crew before 11pm (Must show crew pass)
FREE ENTRY for Birthday Grrls all night long. (Celebrate your birthday during Herstory party and sign in 2 guests for FREE)
FREE LED Laser Finger Lights for all *While stocks last

Please email party@herstory.ws for table reservations and birthday celebrations."


Look at those color codes. :) Aren't they fun?

I was deciding between Blue & Green. As it turned out during the party, very few people wore more than 1 color on their fingertips (excluding the waiters who wore 3).

In fact...very few people actually turned on their finger lights, even though at the door, they were asked what colors they wanted and were given those lights.

Though the women came in pairs or in groups, I doubt All of them were taken.

So, it was quite a mystery why so many lights weren't turned on.

To begin at the beginning...

After receiving the e-mail and wondering about going, it became doubtful I'd be going since I doubted there would be anybody to go with, and I was too uncertain and lazy to go alone.

There was however, 1 possible chance of an accompanying companion...if she read my message in time here on Fridae.

On Friday, I sent message, just a thought whether we might go together to the event and doubtful she would read it in time. There have been quite big spacings of days in our replies so far.

However, on Saturday (the day itself), she replied. :)

I gave her my number since there wouldn't be much time till the event, and I might be going out to Takashimaya.

Even then, I wondered if I would actually be at Firefly that night since various possibilities could happen. Who knows. I've since learnt to not get my hopes up for a lot of things.

After a much needed nap, I left late for Taka, wanting to buy some groceries with my bro. (The nap was not planned, but I was just too tired/sleepy).

I was thinking of meeting my companion at Mariott at 9.30~10pm (was hoping to get the finger lights "while stocks last").

Also, I planned to leave the club before midnight to catch public transport. So... the later we met, the less time we would have to stay and watch, although from first-time experience at Attica, I knew 9.30~10pm was rather early for clubbing/clubbers who would only start getting in near or past midnight.

But no choice if I wanted to catch public transport.

On the other hand, my companion was planning (?) on a later time...and would not be there until past 10 pm.

Arriving at Taka, amazingly, the mall was going to close at 9.30pm, leaving just a few minutes of browsing at the supermarket and Watsons before the entire place just shuttered up.

Ah... that was too early since I wouldn't be meeting my newfound acquaintance till 10.30pm.

Somehow bro and I hung around, and then walked down to the Mariott where there didn't seem to be a basement inside or outside, and no directions to "Firefly".

Odd.

Had to ask the cafe waiter/lobby man at the Mariott lobby. He said to go past the lobby, see the exit sign and turn left.

He had to say that twice because ... I repeated after him and he repeated.

So then... Bro and I found the place.

It was not at basement level at all, but at the side of the building with a sign in faded orange-red "Firefly".

A few Indian men in suits sat around outside (doormen) with a few people leaning along the wall making me think it was a queue.

I said to my bro that the place looked seedy. (Like some Chinatown night spot with underground things going on inside).

One uncle holding the hand of a younger woman swept in. Now, why would an uncle be going to this event?

I followed, with my bro hanging rather reluctantly behind. Standing outside, I saw the uncle looking at the "menu" in a glass stand inside.

That seemed normal enough. To make things less seedy than it looked, I told my bro that the uncle was looking at the "menu" (implying we could also do the same).

So I entered, with the doormen glancing at me as I passed.

Bro followed. And we stood in front of the "menu" while the uncle went downstairs with his girlfriend/mistress to Firefly.

The menu turned out to be a programme list of what's up at the club for the night.

That was also when the uncle came back up the stairs with the younger woman and left.

So it seemed he had discovered what this event was about and felt it wasn't to his taste?

Bro and I also left to go back to the lobby (to wait for my companion). I said I'd check out the club downstairs later.

Along the way, I saw older women in very casual, non-clubbing attire heading to the club... (example, a woman in a flowing tube dress).

Strange.

In the lobby restroom, I saw aunties. Also attending the event?? Or more likely in for cheap alcohol and cheap entrance fee?

While joining the end of the 3-women queue for available cubicles, I was rather attracted to a woman in a black collared shirt, jeans and black belt waiting in front of me.

Short-cropped hair, hard narrow face, rather masculine height and slim physique with a little love handles (fat) on either side above the jeans.

Must be one of those masculine-styled women attending the event. But.. she was an older woman compared to the usual younger types, and her face was hard with some of that age showing (despite her short hair). A little of the auntie look already.

She suddenly turned and noticed me standing behind her, as we waited.

Then she did something strange:

For a moment, she sidestepped to the left, as if wanting to let me go first? Or...?

I didn't get what she was doing, but then she went ahead to a cubicle that just opened, and by her clicking heels, I noticed her shoes were black and flat-heeled like a man's.

(Incidentally, I didn't see her or any of the aunties in the club when I finally went in).

At the lobby, bro and I sat in the cafe sofas while waiting. Bro was afraid the waiter/lobby man would ask us to leave. I said, "That's why I'm reading the menu".

Or rather, pretending to read it.

I said even if the waiter asked us to leave, I believe he would do so nicely, since this is a 5 or 6-star hotel. No problem if he should say we couldn't sit here.

Looking around while waiting, I saw a ... pink and collared shirt pudding with glasses walking by.

Made me smile. I told my bro, "This pudding is also going to the event?".

I was sure she was going to the event since she looked the sort. The type who dresses in the masculine style: typical shirt, jeans and short hair.

Except... Rounded, bouncy...pudding.

Around 10.40 pm, my acquaintance arrived in the lobby area.

Although there were a few people walking in and out, her entrance was quite unmistakable (though we've never met).

Bro said, "That one, is it? With the phone in her hand.". He was speaking a little too loudly to catch her attention since she was walking away. It alarmed me because I'd rather just meet her on my own, without my bro being seen.

I had seen her, but turned to look again. Then said to my bro that he could leave with the groceries (so I could meet with her).

Bro and I had earlier decided that he would walk with me to Mariott and then leave once my acquaintance arrived.

I had told bro it was an all-girls party, with men as guests, but didn't mention it was a gay women's event...

I had said if he wanted, he could come along, just pay more, but at the thought of having to pay for what he wasn't interested in, he said "don't want" (as I knew).

Yet I was making rather obvious comments about the event and the women, so I don't know if he knew what kind of event it was. At the end when I came home, I even said my finger light color means "single and available" and he still didn't comment.

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Mm...first of all, thanks to my companion for taking a cab down to meet with me, just to be at Firefly.

As we went down the stairs where the party was...

I heard heavy music bass blasting up, making me reluctant to continue. Since my acquaintance had been in there once before, I asked if the $10 was worth paying.

Upon reaching the bottom of the steps facing the club's entrance, I hung back at the side while the counter staff took entrance fees from those entering and stamped the underside of the forearms of a group of girls.

At such times, the most irrational indecisiveness and anxiety will seize me.

I'll hang outside a club instead of going in (even though I came with the intention of entering), wondering if paying the entrance fee is worth it (or if I should save it and go home).

Going to clubs/bars actually gives me quite a lot of stress/anxiety before entering. I would feel great uncertainty and indecisiveness...Neither able to go in nor leave.

While others casually, excitedly and happily just stroll in, I seem unable to. My feet seem rooted to the ground outside, and I just can't seem to cross that threshold.

The louder the music I hear coming from inside, the worse. It gives me even more of an excuse not to go in (on account of the music being too deafening, and I still want my hearing).

Yet, I came to the place wanting to go in and have fun.

It's a very... difficult dilemma that can be quite a torture whenever I'm outside a nightclub/bar. I could hang around outside for several long minutes trying to decide whether to go in (and in the end walking away).

It's like a person is afraid of water, so he/she stands at the pool's edge looking down at the beckoning water, but can't go in.

Afraid. Yeah, I think that's it.

Fear of what's inside that dark place. Afraid of what exactly...I actually don't know. It's a barrier feeling.

I guess because it's been ingrained to me since young what such places are like, what kinds of people are there etc...

It's very hard for me to think of such places as just for "fun" especially when I've also read reports of drunken fights, bad behavior etc...

At the same time, I'm curious and want to see, want to be a part of.

If there's sex being performed live in there... that would be interesting. :)

If someone were to pick me up, or give me her number, that would be interesting.

If ladies started dancing naked or in their lingerie, that would also be
interesting.

(Later, I saw one short girl-guy putting her arms straight on the shoulders of another, swaying their hips with loving feeling to the music. Unfortunately, not sexy and I looked away.).

The possibilities that I wonder about and would like to see for real happening, seduces me.

At the entrance, pink heart-shaped balloons floated under the ceiling, dangling golden strings down (romantic). Inside, I could see tables and women in the semi-darkness as the music bass blasted.

I walked closer to look in, past the doormen, and inside looked fine. Still... I
continued hanging outside.

My companion was of the opinion that hanging around outside wasn't the thing. She was fine with staying or leaving.

I was thinking that since we were already there, and she had made her way to accompany me, I couldn't possibly just walk away (even though I most likely would have walked away if I came alone).

So, finally, I nodded that we go in, and she had to confirm that that was what I wanted.

Counter staff asked what colors we wanted for our finger lights and we asked for 2 blues. :)

Paid $10 per person, which was very cheap. As for drinks, I wasn't intending to have any. The nightclub can't make any more money off of me since I don't drink.

No I/C checks which I like.

Firefly wasn't as dark as Attica. It was a semi-darkness that you could see faces quite clearly. (And there were quite a few handsome-pretty girls there).

I thought it was going to be dimmed further later, but the place remained as it was.

It looked better than Attica, with better lighting and layout. Too bad the tables have to be reserved and the seats too far back to see the dance floor.

Dance floor is a small, concrete area. If anyone knows of a more classy nightclub with some nice carpeting and sofas, please let me know.

More of the pink heart-shaped balloons were strapped to railings around the dance floor and tables on the level above.

My companion got a glass of water for me, while she ordered a Heineken. The Heineken was served fast but my water and her change (after payment) took a while in coming. Minus points for bartender and waiter.

The price of my water was unknown and my companion assumed it was free. When the receipt came with the change, I didn't check the price. And later, my companion didn't save the receipt...

I had wanted to pay her for it. How much could a glass of water be?

Since it was still early in terms of clubbing time, I began to stroll around the
tables on the level above the dance floor, just to feel the layout of the floor area.

In the semi-darkness, some women sitting at the tables glanced up at me as I passed.

Halfway, I stopped because, suddenly I realized I seemed to be... too prowling or showing myself off...

So, reversing direction, I didn't complete the loop back to the start point, and re-joined my companion waiting behind me.

We stood at a small, round table reserved for "Cary" but this person didn't turn up even past 10.30 pm, at which time, according to my companion who referred to the e-mail via her handphone, the seat would be forfeit. I hadn't read the e-mail that closely to know this. So, I commented that it was some very sharp reading on her part. :)

That being the case, I took hold of the paper triangle, pulled it off without knowing it was stuck to the tabletop with sticky tape, put it aside and turned the name down.

The table was on the level above the dance floor, providing an excellent view of the dance area and around. I really liked it and wondered what was the table number (so maybe next time I might reserve the same one).

Unfortunately, our chairs were missing. Looking behind, other tables had more chairs than they should have.

Sharing the table with us, was ... whatdoyaknow... pink pudding. She had a girl beside her, though I didn't see who the friend was. Pink pudding placed her drink on our table but I can't recall if her friend's drink was also on it.

Nobody was dancing, everyone was just standing around giving a big empty space to the dance floor. Bummer.

But in hindsight, given the bad music without a rhythm to dance to, it was no surprise.

(Attica on the other hand, had played the same songs throughout the night, over and over again, with people not minding as they packed in and danced on that tiny dance floor).

A strange Ang Mo in a black off-shoulder dress took to the dance floor with a green light on the middle finger of his/her right hand... (isn't that a man?).

Green = predator. *grimace* With looks like that... and legs standing stiffly
apart (in a dress) like tree trunks... I doubt she/he could "predate" anyone.

A man joined in dancing with her for short while, then later a fat man did the same and she put her arms around his shoulders in a hug. Not sure if they are friends of hers or strangers.

The rest of the floor was expectedly of 2 types of women: those in pants and those not.

There were a few men, since men are allowed as guests of women, though it costs more at $15 per entry.

I noticed three short gay men that I realized were gay when one of them kissed the other near the dance floor. My thought was: why are they so short? They are men, are they not?

The women in pants seemed to wear the same as each other, with collared shirts. The type tends to wear plain-colored collared shirts, though in the semi-darkness, the colors couldn't be seen.

Those not in pants...I didn't notice.

As mentioned in a previous post, I seem to be interested in pretty-handsome (or handsome-pretty) women/girls. To me, their masculine roles are too obviously fake and they are more vulnerable than other women in this way.

Unknowingly, they wear their insecurities and vulnerabilities on the outside.

A weakness that attracts and fascinates me (and sometimes puts me off as well).

[Considering this earlier today 8 Feb, it occured to me: Doesn't that make me a true-er predator than the so-called predators? :) Watching and desiring those who think they hunt. ]

In bed, they would be under me. At the moment, just the thought of kissing and pleasuring a pretty one in bed is an enjoyable feeling.

For a moment, as I looked among the faces of those women in pants, I thought one of them might be Joy, the waitress from the Thai restaurant (so similar are all their faces).

The body type of those in pants was short, small-sized, thin/slim, with a few looking under-nourished and not well-proportioned.

Those in pants with faces that I noticed were pretty and feminine (rather than handsome), I wanted to get to know to bed (regardless of the person beside them whom I didn't even see).

There were quite a number of those around, as I looked around in the semi-darkness, and as it drew closer to midnight with more of them entering.

While my companion spoke in my ear and I nodded while listening (and pushing away the balloons on my left blocking my view), I noticed a woman glancing up at me as she stood on the level just below.

In a V-necked T, she was talking and smiling with friends, beer jugs on their table. One of those masculine-styled women.

Glancing back at her, our eyes made contact for a split instant before I glanced away. She looked dry from too much beer or smoking.

Not sure if she was specifically looking at me or just a coincidence.

Not sure if that was their table since they seemed to stand a little detached from it.

From time to time, I glanced down at her but no more eye contacts were made. She didn't glance up as much or anymore. Much later, the group drifted away.

Some time later, I noticed a girl-guy in a black-collared shirt standing directly across the club, at the back, leaning against the wall beside the DJ's place, seemingly looking straight at me.

At that distance, in the semi-darkness, she looked a lot like Joy. Wouldn't be surprised if it was her.

Meanwhile, the whole time, I was pushing away the pink heart-shaped balloons floating above the left side of our table. Tied to the bottom railing, they kept getting in the way of my dance floor viewing.

Even in the darkness/semi-darkness, all the ladies looked tired and worn out.

Probably due to working, smoking, alcohol, lack of exercise and lack of beauty sleep. All looking around the same age, 20s~30s.

At 11.50 pm, the place started getting very crowded, filling up the dance floor. Around that time, a waitress came to our table asking if we were "Cary".

Earlier, I had wondered to my companion if "Cary" was a male or female. While my companion thought that Cary is a female name, I felt the person might be female or male. There is a male actor that I liked in The Princess Bride movie with that name (Cary Elwes).

Since we didn't reply, the waitress turned the paper reservation triangle back up with the name facing in front, and plucked the remnants of sticky tape off the tabletop.

Then a group of women started taking over.

Whether there was a Cary among them, I've no idea. But they took over without so much as a glance back or around at us, which made me just stand back looking at them (without knowing where else to go or park).

Wasn't the table already forfeit after 10.30pm? Why were they still able to claim it? Now thinking about it, shouldn't we have "reminded" the waitress about it instead of just standing back?

The waitress spoke to them and I assumed it was probably to tell them that technically the table was no longer theirs but just this one time...

I glanced at my companion and saw her hanging aside, Heineken in hand, staring ahead at what seemed to be nothing in particular.

One of those who took over the table glanced back at me, but I have no recollection of what she looked like. A taller, unattractive one like a male Beng started laying out the Heineken coasters on their table.

With the table gone with the view, the place filling up fast, and the time ticking closer and closer to midnight, I decided to leave.

Yeah, leaving just when the fun just started. What a bummer (the same feeling I felt when having to leave Attica).

If only I had my own transport, I could stay past midnight.

My companion was Ok to leave, so we went. On our way out, a much longer queue was already in place, all the way up the stairs, comprising of female couples and one or two men/guys.

As we walked to the bus-stop, I wondered to my companion how we could stay if we didn't leave the place. Table gone. Dance floor crowded with more people coming in.

She said we could find a spot or corner on the dance floor area and stand around there.

I said it wasn't possible with the place getting so packed, but it was then that I realized that probably, she had wanted to stay. If she had wanted to stay, I might have...

But I was concerned that my bro would be worried about me since I told him I'd be back before midnight (besides worrying about the taxi fare surcharge). And I was getting slightly hungry and concerned about getting hungrier later.

Looking at the party, it didn't seem worth staying/sacrificing for.

Overall, I quite enjoyed Firefly, thanks to the company.

But since nothing happened while I was there, it was boring.

Too bad I had to leave before I turned into a pumpkin.

The crowd could do more than just stand around. I don't know what they did after I left. Maybe there was some sexiness or nottiness on the dance floor.

But while there, with my bright blue finger light hanging on the zipper of my pouch that I held in my hand, nothing happened.

As mentioned earlier above, very few people actually turned on their finger lights. My companion attributed it to shyness, though I wonder how that could be when they are gay women.

Yet they can't all be taken, right?

According to my companion, people are friendlier in the bars/clubs of other countries, such that "Hi, can I buy you a drink" is possible.

Where then, is my "Hi, can I buy you a drink" in the 2 clubs (Attica & Firefly) and 1 bar (the ex-Toca me) that I've visited so far?

She said it can never happen in gay women bars/clubs in Singapore.

What a pity. It means I'll never get picked up. *smiling at the silly thought*

It means I've to come up with a story where picking up and then bed occurs. And more that never happens at these gay women events in SG. Such as... being enjoyed by a few women in a secret room of a club. Such a room that I actually saw at Firefly, just across from the bar counter.

An empty room where I saw one woman standing, looking miserable... and if I recall correctly, smoking.

What a pity. A room just for smoke.

Upon catching the bus and walking home (after the bus interchange closed), and then reaching home, I showed bro the finger light.

I wondered where the club got such cute lights, and he said, "Daiso sells".

Is it? Then the club bought them at $2 each? Isn't that rather expensive to give out to everyone? Or did they get a bulk deal?

Incidentally, when in a club/bar, I always look at the ceiling and floor, and notice it doesn't take much to open one. No decoration needed. Not really needing much paint.

Small dance floor, minimal furniture. Pack everybody in on a Saturday night, reap in the bucks. (Is a one-time packing in a week enough for a lot of profit?).

I wonder how much money they are making and also want to open my own club.

Firefly charges $10/person for entry. Is that enough to operate such a joint? Or more likely, the profit comes from the alcohol?

I wonder if I should visit Firefly again, since they have events every Sat night (if I got that right). This time, I'll go alone.

Or should I check out PLAY that my acquaintance said is better with a younger crowd that's more daring? :)

I start imagining myself in the black gothic-punk style top with jeans, sitting one leg crossed over the other, in a couch, a drink in hand. A glittering blue earring on my left/right ear, and a ring hanging from a long silver-black chain necklace.

That ought to interest the younger, daring girls without scaring them away with too much gothic/punk.

That gothic/punk top, when I first tried it on (some year back) in the shop with my jeans, the salesgirl had immediately exclaimed that I looked cool. Although I was skeptical about her comment, I bought it for a lot of money (yes, I don't remember how much).

Mm.. Not sure if the same cool effect is still there...I don't think so, but it's worth a fantasy.

A young girl giving me her number would be nice. PLAY I noticed before (while standing out there one night), has a queue of very young girls. So young that I wondered if they are merely 12 or 13, though that's impossible since it would be against regulation (unless the club is breaking it).

To be honest, at Firefly, it was a little awkward holding on to a bright blue light that signaled I'm single and available. It's like... yeah, like a Firefly. :) (what a brilliant idea this club came up with).

But in practice... it felt odd walking around with a signal like that. At first, while getting our drinks at the bar, I switched it on and off, following the music.

I didn't want to switch it off completely because I was there to attract interest. If it were switched off, it would defeat the purpose.

Then I attached the light to the zipper of my pouch and quite forgot about it.

So... in a way, my acquaintance might be right about the ladies being "shy" to turn on their lights. Though it's also quite possible that almost all are taken since they came with girlfriends. Taken = no finger light (bummer).

When I mentioned to bro about "Hi, can I buy you a drink" and why gay women in Singapore were too shy to do the same, he said, "Not shy, it's stingy.".

I laughed and had to agree since my first thought when I heard my companion mention it, was "This person so rich, meh? Buy a stranger a drink.".

It's because I can't see myself buying someone a drink, no matter how attractive the other person looks. So, yeah, I laughed because my bro is so right.

Pretty sure that's what gay women of SG think as well, though shyness/coyness also has a part.


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8 Feb: Thinking of the posh line of clubs from the same "family" that just opened last year. I didn't know they existed until they came up in a Google search last night.

So, there are clubs with plush carpets and furnishings after all.

MINK has some pretty women partying there (but what sort?)... https://www.facebook.com/clubmink

Unfortunately, a review said MINK is more of a lounge than a club, with plenty of sofas but not enough dance floor. That's rather a bummer since I want to see dancing (not Waltz).

As for Royal Room, designed for "Singapore’s elite clientele", access via invitation and referrals only => looks boring: http://sg.lifestyleasia.com/en/features/wine-and-dine/new-club-royal-room-at-pan-pacific-singapore-9062/


Why does it look so boring? (It won't be boring if naked women go from section to section, dancing for the customers to watch... and if preferred... do more on the seats).

Interesting they used the name Pangaea. So these club owners are educated (surprised).

Eons ago, the continents were one, called Pangaea, until it broke apart, separating into the present continents.

Not interested in Avalon, since from their website, the place looks like a garage.